Max Fisher’s new book “The Chaos Machine” was written with Offline’s audience in mind. He sits down with Jon to talk about what his interviews with researchers, psychologists, whistleblowers, and Silicon Valley executives taught him about social media’s effects on our brains, our culture, and our politics. Tracing the creation of the Facebook Newsfeed to the election of Donald Trump, he argues that the fundamental design of social media platforms themselves have literally rewired our brains.
00:00 - Intro 01:04 - Interview start 06:20 - Why can't Facebook executives identify the issues? 21:05 - Ad Break 25:03 - Social media & identity 43:38 - Ad Break 2 48:03 - What can we do to regulate tech companies?
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